Hartman - how old school can you get? The description I've copied from the media guide (below right) is right on target. Completely closed in public - never an extra word.

In 17 seasons at KSU he'd go 295-169, our winningest coach. Yet, big-time success would elude him. Three B8 titles and one tournament championship. No final fours, but four times his team would loose in the regional finals.

For a few years he lived around the block behind my house. No one dared approach him. Once he was driving home and I was riding my bike past his driveway just as he wanted to turn in. We sort of stuttered back and forth and I was the recipient of the famous, patented, "Hartman glare." Right through the windshield it could blow your hair back.